or mathematics jules thorough discussion we have I think the truth no doubt get or truth in the universe? For example, 1 + 1 = 2, etc.
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>> 51 No, the body to the body I'll communicates telepathically do not know is there was a way irregular intellectual organisms amoeba you are made of more than one mass, and no matter how much away, somewhere is crushed Satoshi not even conscious of trying not to begin with division also be moving around in search of nutrition because the thinking ability effects also have been thinking jules by using a weak radio waves flying over the space without iodine and (it was to no have not also been culled environment) Do not you think it would be good even How about gravity and impulse for this organism? Even if the felt example
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>> 57 It is simply What problem here Do not story of means of mutual understanding is Toka world recognition for the part that is alien intention itself, which is the communication
>> Although only an ideal triangle for most strictly be realized jules of that delusion without 106 exist if you do not assume jules the "ideal" triangle abstract theory of geometry in its statement that can not be built, truly strictly has to be assumed triangle is very simple shapes formed by the intersection jules of a simple straight line for the construction of free geometry only in the sense that can not be realized in the real world and to understand the world representation format for the construction of physics require mathematics, including the concept of triangle etc. Different
>> 123 This is I think the causal relationship is not a reason because reverse What do you mean? Specific and clearly explained to it Well, the first place reason that you can intuitively understand what aliens called "straight" Why Chapter? I of're jules saying things that need and not straight to understand the straight line if aliens such as poor natives of that is the premise head the alien is to form a high degree of civilization as we Although not see what the ideal straight, jules almost straight line to the extent that linear approximation is possible to perceive this in any number in the world, and to understand jules the straight line if it has a certain level of intelligence, jules the ideal "linear It is possible to assume a "is the concept
>> 128 civilization, technology Toka those things words What was developed from our civilization that does not necessarily say me that alien the history pseudo human, jules such as tracing a human and I know you want to be traced to say me not absolute I was uncomfortable in itself
>> 130 civilization, technology civilization in the form, such as has been our formation me not absolute and that mean technology is not universal,? In other words that mean aliens of human and equal to or greater than the intelligence was developed a civilization and technology in a different form? In that case, even understanding of the forces that govern jules the phenomenon of the universe, and logic and the laws of phenomena necessary technology to build the technology that governs the universe elucidation of the mechanism of the phenomenon, and the universe because that does not hold only in the form of using the principle It is because it is uniformitarianism
>> 176 more clearly Anegai
>> More of the world separator is different for each language if append jules to 196, but the sum of the world where language is also recognized jules differently to use the same So, it is believed that it is possible to translate even different languages universe But there is no guarantee that communicate can be that due to the language since there is no guarantee that the same (as had been using such things also alien to as) the world that you are recognized as assume a person, if limited to mathematics, mathematics Since such those that do not only describe things of the world of mathematics Yabe that are guaranteed fully's possible to translate also differ in if there representation to understand the math it would be tapeworm it would be alien (language), jules w to feel that it has become difficult to understand in extra to
>> 227 liberty to answer in my opinion> Contact k> alien by me our mathematics and physics laws'm not at all absolutely the absolute laws of physics absolute or that has been demonstrated in the leave to mathematics at If If you have any math (language) meaning we also can understand> because it just because representation format's the same world you are writing jules castle in different in? the street> 1 + 1 = 2 and of the universe people language h7r ~Uu g Dji 0 follower 0 meaning represented by Even that is why it can be seen the same with? talk to me how do I'll translation between the universe human speech and the Earth math notation really is difficult likely be a different question from the mathematics and our math question me the same whether or not the alien is certainly
>> 227 1 + 1 = 2 and of the universe people language h7r ~Uu g Dji 0 follower 0 meaning represented by Even that is why it can be seen the same with? If is not necessarily the same since the story that because there is a possibility that deal with subjects different jules to say that mathematics but intelligence or alien developed sufficiently like having civilization, such as 1 + 1 = 2 and will in the first place need So that kind of alien that you understand the number of operations are familiar with etc. Different languages 1 + 1 = 2, artificial, such as the alien is mathematics language that use of our If you're notation mathematics of language, the representation corresponding to 1 + 1 = 2 will have its alien
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For example, snow crystals become hexagonal if it meets a number of conditions. What is given, it would be nice to say that invariant in the range that can be seen by the human race at once the whole universe. I think problem is dark matter. Mankind also can not also be recognized that touch that look might have made up the physics of the constructed alien is still another system in the mysterious substance that say that there is weight. jules By the way, but I'm assured there is weight, dark matter and possibly slip through I, et al., After all, I'm likely not to touch.
>> 84> that is that logic is absolutely? I wonder if favor here, if logic is probably being in the same space that the feeling that comes from the mechanism of the universe, jules more than >> 82> all must have the same consistent logic is derived from the axiom> Na would difference here that only only occur E of how to take of axioms jules and inference rules appear, That said I think that it is not surprising jules that even had a natural number concepts different from us different from the course Peano axioms, 1 + 1 = 2 much Though likely have in common what about the definition of per real, it might be us and have a different thing to the standard
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